This is Love

The creators of the popular podcast Criminal surprised everyone when they turned their attention to an investigation of a very different kind: how to be alone, how to live forever, how to wait, how to worry and, yes, how to love.

In Season 3: The Boot, venture to Italy and witness love that’s ancient and ugly and bonded by our collective need for togetherness.

Based in Durham, NC.



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Meet the Creators

Phoebe Judge and Lauren Spohrer


Phoebe Judge is the host and co-creator of Criminal and This is Love. Previously, she was a host at WUNC North Carolina Public Radio, a producer for The Story with Dick Gordon, and a reporter based in the gulf coast of Mississippi. She covered the BP oil spill and the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina for Mississippi Public Broadcasting and National Public Radio. Phoebe’s work has won multiple Edward R. Murrow and Associated Press awards. She attended the Salt Institute for Documentary Studies.

Lauren Spohrer is the co-creator of the podcasts Criminal and This is Love. Before creating Criminal, she produced NPR's Weekend Edition Saturday, NPR's Bryant Park Project, and APM's The Story. She has an MFA from Columbia University on a University Writing Fellowship. She's the founder of the literary magazine Two Serious Ladies.

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